Joe
Tattooed Monkey Designs
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I've been tinkering with the idea of ramping up to an actual online release of something I've been working on, but I'm wondering what people would recommend for site design. I think Barry (Inktank) uses Cold Fusion (or at least did at one point), and I've considered ASP and PHP hand coding some stuff, but I'd like to hear what people would suggest that has worked for them. Hopefully something that's as bug free as possible, and isn't likely to require me to sell an organ to buy. Thanks for any ideas, help, and such not.
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Fractal Dragon |
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well, I guess a main factor in your choice should be ... well... what does your host give you?
I think PHP is pretty much standard these days though... -FD Writer for Eidolic Fringe |
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Actually, what I opt to go with will determine who I opt to use as a host. Wanna do all my homework first, then dive in. I'm attempting to not hit my head on a rock when I leap from the pier.
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goonigoogoo |
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I do all my html in notepad, with the exception of tables. I use frontpage because it's just easier that way.
@#%$ tables are murder |
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kapow |
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i do everything in html on notepad. even tables .... that being the reason why when my archives went down, they didn't come back again. ....still gotta get around to that
-katie-
http://backintheday.toefur.com (comic) http://listen.to/adifferentdrum (music) |
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webhooligan |
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I avoid server side scripting as much as possible.
Coldfusion is always more expensive to use, so if you want cheapness, go with PHP. I also avoid tables whenever possible, proper use of CSS largely eliminates the need for the use of tables as an element of layout. It makes your markup more readable as well. |
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J Clark Idle ME |
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Definately learn CSS. Cascading Style Sheets: The Difinitive Guide by Eric Meyer (I think) is a great place to start, you can check out my site for an example of layout with out tables. It's not pretty, though only because I haven't put in the time yet, but it is functional (there's only one table, and all it does is center the comic on the page).
As for a scripting language, go with Perl or PHP, neither is all that difficult to learn (as programming languages go, thought I'm still learning myself), and they're universally supported. |
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Staniel Ehfef |
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I still use FrontPage, and although I've had a few quirks with it, I still like to be able to see what i'm doing. I like my design, so I don't think I'll mess with it, at least for now.
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middletowner |
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I agree with the use of only a notepad. It's free and pretty much every one has one. There are tons of free tutorials out there that will help with html, CSS, Javascript, and the like. Besides this way it gives you more understanding of how it all works and you have complete hands on control of your website and usually know how to fix it when things go screwy. Just look around at some other web sites, get some ideas, sketch out your own, and your off. Also, as a tip, view the page with the use of other browsers and in different resolutions, not everyone is going to be using your computer to view your webpage.
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forcefieldbreach |
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I was once called a HTML Nazi at work. *sigh* I actually told our web developers to learn HTML! Can you imagine!
Any way, I am now a HUGE fan of dreamweaver. If you are a student or someone else is paying, Macromedia all the way! BTW: frontpage is crap, I have not tried the latest version but after using Dreamweaver I will not even bother... Oh yeah, now I supervise the web developers. They are currently learning HTML and can't use the WYSIWYG functions for a month... AIM: Forcefieldgames MSN & Hotmail: Forcefieldbreach@hotmail.com 404 file not found: Please contact your administrator if this problem persists. To avoid this problem in the future, avoid Microsoft products. |
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knox |
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hrmm ... I guess I am the only Java advocate.
I haven't coded anything for an online comic strip yet, but it would be simple. Anything will work, but if you are going for standardization then I would go with perl or php. You will find those most readily available. I would definitely make a couple of points about web design: 1. Never rely on javascript, only think of it as a bonus feature. Lots of people are disabling it now because it is annoying and a security risk, so don't make anything that won't work without it. 2. Simple is always best with html. Strangely enough, people don't seem to realize that the complexity of your html WILL affect how fast the page loads. Try not to nest tables within each other. Also, don't go image crazy as many ppl like to do these days. Images are nice, but too many images will affect loading time on your page, even if they are small. 3. Super compress your images. Most people gloss over this thinking that photoshop or XXX program does it for them, but that is not true. you can do better. Most icons don't have that many colors in them, so take advantage of that. Most of your images should be less than 500 Bytes (meaning 0.5 KB) Your art falls under slightly different rules of course. 4. Don't clutter. This is the biggest problem with most websites these days, nobody understands spacing. If you have a whole lot of information, then break it up into multiple pages. This not only makes each page easier to read, but it also makes each page smaller so they load faster. |
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Odd1 |
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For the purity of notepad with the convenience of a WYSIWYG preview, try 1st Page 2000 from www.evrsoft.com/. It's excellent - and free! A really good program, especially if you're just learning HTML. You can code by hand and see the effect instantly.
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Moonstone Spider |
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Annoyingly enough both of their download sites don't work. Sounds like the kind of program I've been looking for too.
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Nijyo |
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I use mostly Dreamweaver, but I've also used a little program (it has a demo, but is cheap to buy as well) called Edit Plus. It's over at www.editplus.com I do believe.
As for the scripting language, I'd suggest HTML/CSS+PHP why? Because PHP has functions to speaking to just about every database package out there, and is _free_. I haven't used cold fusion before, but I have heard more moaning about it than praising (and its the bad sort of moaning, not that good stuff everyone is after). - Nijyo
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